Ryobi starter dogs

[bgsengine]

Got both off. Identical except for keys. One narrow with separate key .other is wide keyway on shaft and builtin key on flywheel.

and the one with the keyway is the aforementioned cheap one. - But as noted - if you can post the MODEL (ItemID) numbers (It'll probably be ItemID if it is a MTD built ryobi, or a RY model number if it is TTI/Homelite built)

[38racing]

ok, tiller model number is 21a-121r900 which sears says takes 753-05240 which replaced 791-182736. 5240 appears to have the wider keyway but a separate key with it rather than built in.
And I remembere that I have stored away another friend's YM trimmer because it needed a new recoil spring. It is model y765 and it's parts PDF says flywheel is 791-182736 and repairclinic just shows the 05240.
So I will pull that y765 apart next.
Funny thing is that I stored it away because of cost of getting the recoil spring for a trimmer that might have carb issues. Looks like I had a spring all along in the old ryobi.
Funny how ebay used to be the place to shop for parts. Looking there (ebay.ca) I find most cost more than I can get from online dealer. More frustrating is that I can get that flywheel from Repair Clinic in Michigan (probably not far from Windsor, Canada) for $60 cdn. delivered to my door in eastern Ontario. That includes part, shipping, customs and .88 CDN to US $. Dealer in Windsor is that same $60 plus at least another $10 in shipping.
But for now I will just try to get tiller going with parts on hand.

edit: and just to add to the parts cost story. Ereplacementparts seems to think it has a great deal to offer Canadians with its global 'to the door all in pricing'. Their price to me $97 USD compared to Repair Clinic's $58 USD, same service.

[bgsengine]

edit: and just to add to the parts cost story. Ereplacementparts seems to think it has a great deal to offer Canadians with its global 'to the door all in pricing'. Their price to me $97 USD compared to Repair Clinic's $58 USD, same service.

Heh. Yep. Pays to shop around.. we beat their prices regularly.. even shipping.. both on our website and on ebay.. we're not the cheapest , not by a long shot.. but I plan to stay in business for a long time.. some of those places won't.. and many of them just list product and drop-ship from Stens... even though some of them list the part as implied to be OEM..

Only thing is.. we don't do international shipping right now. Too much hassle, paperwork and trouble complying with postal and customs regulations... Oh well. We need to find a good freight forwarder company to handle global shipping... so we just ship to a U.S. address, and THEY can deal with the ever changing Customs and Paperwork crap.

[38racing]

edit: and just to add to the parts cost story. Ereplacementparts seems to think it has a great deal to offer Canadians with its global 'to the door all in pricing'. Their price to me $97 USD compared to Repair Clinic's $58 USD, same service.

Heh. Yep. Pays to shop around.. we beat their prices regularly.. even shipping.. both on our website and on ebay.. we're not the cheapest , not by a long shot.. but I plan to stay in business for a long time.. some of those places won't.. and many of them just list product and drop-ship from Stens... even though some of them list the part as implied to be OEM..

Only thing is.. we don't do international shipping right now. Too much hassle, paperwork and trouble complying with postal and customs regulations... Oh well. We need to find a good freight forwarder company to handle global shipping... so we just ship to a U.S. address, and THEY can deal with the ever changing Customs and Paperwork crap.

Ebay.ca is now using a global shipping option so lots of items are showing available to Canada from sellers who do not ship to Canada. The item is shipped to a US point where they reship to canada doing all the brokerage stuff. Problem is that there are now 2 shipping costs plus the international fees. And they only estimate these latter fees on the listing and confirm on checkout , after you commit to buy. I have never seen any of these items cost competitive. I stick to US sellers who will ship USPS. Then there are no surprises. Worst case ,but very rare, I have to pay an extra $5.00 brokerage plus our Canadian tax (HST) of 13%. I can always compare that worst case to buying it here in Canada with the 13% added for sure. Just for interest give me an item you have on ebay and your seller id and I'll see if ebay actually has placed it in the global program.
I buy a lot of car parts from rockauto.com . Apparently they register as a non resident importer to Canada. They get a registration number to collect and remit our HST. And they work with Fedex and maybe a broker but when I order I have my item price and a shipping price(including brokerage and any duty) and HST for a 'to my door' by Fedex in CDN$ or USD$, my choice. The shipping generally starts at $25 no matter what I buy.(even a single bolt) They now have a consolidated option for some orders which can be around $12 to start. The invoice now also shows what part of it is duty. Items must say made in USA,Canada or Mexico to be duty free or not say where they were made. But any made in Taiwan or China will have a duty added. I got wheel bearings and an oxygen sensor on one order and it numbers indicated duty on the bearings only.

[38racing]

Ok, getting back to post one, the non retracting recoil. So I pulled the flywheel from the y765 trimmer. It has different recoil stuff but flywheel is a match (more later on that) as per the IPLs. I mount it up but be darned if it doesn't still stick if cover is tight. I looked and looked and loosened and tightened. I knew the pulley was a bit different but could not see how it was causing the problem. I concluded from looking closely at the dogs and poking in at them that they were rubbing on the pulley face. So I bent them down a bit (clue) to clear the pulley. Still no go. Stymied, I just decided to pick up the ryobi flywheel (my machine since new) and the pulley that I took of the tiller and I put them together just to get a sense of how they meshed. Bingo, I see the problem. The dogs on the flywheel I took from the trimmer did not have horizontal dogs with the end pointed up (right angle to wheel face). They were bent up so there was a up part and then the ends were at the top , parallel with the pulley face and now being higher that they rubbed the pulley face. Bent them back down into property position and it recoils just fine. So I wonder if some 'incident' actually bent them up on the friend's trimmer or someone did it thinking that would fix the recoil problem which still is a broken spring end I believe. Funny how it never hit me that the dogs were not the same as the other flywheel sitting on the bench. Those gray cells just getting older. As an aside I later noticed a parts bin from an old homelite trimmer. The flywheel was pretty much identical to the ryobi with narrow keyway except the dogs were thicker and wider and fins looked to be a bit thicker too. Would be interesting to compare the weight of both.

[38racing]

well I failed to get it working. I replaced the flywheel and I did get it pulling ok but after a number of restarts while trying to adjust the carb the recoil again failed to catch. Except it was not the recoil itself. When I took it apart I found that the built in key had sheared. I did notice that when I was taking it apart that the drum seemed to be not rotating freely over the clutch and the clutch was loose. I had tightened it with channel locks with piston held by rope and I thought rotation would just tighten it further. So might have been my fault. I'll just keep my eyes open for a deal on another ryobi style trimmer available because of a gummed up carb.

[38racing]

I thought if the flywheels would pop off I'd try to swap with my parts unit.

They do.

Flywheel part number 753-06221 - Runs about $15-ish

Haven't done any thing but think about this project but I found this cheapest 06221 flywheel appears to be 4" in diameter and the one I need is is 3 1/2".

[KE4AVB]

What going used...There is several 791-182736 on Ebay.ca

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0&_nkw=791-182736&_sacat=0

[38racing]

What going used...There is several 791-182736 on Ebay.ca

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0&_nkw=791-182736&_sacat=0

as mentioned earlier in thread all the ebay stuff is more expensive than just buying new from repairclinic.

[KE4AVB]

Sorry 38/, I forgot about that post. But you do need to stick with the 791-182736 or the 753-05240 part numbers. I think I got used out the parts room but as you the shipping is a killer even I sent it free plus shipping.