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Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

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Re: Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

Postby stephanpitts » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:54 pm

motorhead64 wrote:I am wondering if your running rpm's have fallen off. With one-stage blowers, the distance snow is thrown is directly related to engine rpm's..see if you can kick up the throttle a bit. Make sure your throttle is opening all the way and that your choke is also open. MH


Motorhead64/Starfire1,

Makes sense about the rpm's but I am not sure how to get it to achieve the 4000 rpm or open the throttle. If I have the choke fully open(after it starts), it runs too rich. Thanks.

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Re: Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

Postby bgsengine » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:40 pm

First, you gotta fine out what RPM it is supposed to be running at.. Then, find out what RPM it is actually running at (and to do that you need a tach) and once you have those 2 things figured out, you can determine if you need an adjustment or not. :)

You may also want to inspect your impeller blades - as they get worn (and they do) they start to have a greater gap and do not generate the same amount of force (since snow will be slipping back and bypassing the blades) - Could be all you need is a new set of impeller paddles... or scraper bar.. But again, best bet is to find out if it is running at the RPM it should.. if it is running rich with choke "off" (Wide open, run position) then *THAT* alone will be enough to cut down your engine RPM and performance.. meaning you likely need carb work. (But also might do to check your flywheel key which can throw off timing and make engine *act* rich.. not to mention, make sure you have the *CORRECT* spark plug with proper gap installed.)
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Re: Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

Postby stephanpitts » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:06 pm

bgsengine wrote:First, you gotta fine out what RPM it is supposed to be running at.. Then, find out what RPM it is actually running at (and to do that you need a tach) and once you have those 2 things figured out, you can determine if you need an adjustment or not. :)

You may also want to inspect your impeller blades - as they get worn (and they do) they start to have a greater gap and do not generate the same amount of force (since snow will be slipping back and bypassing the blades) - Could be all you need is a new set of impeller paddles... or scraper bar.. But again, best bet is to find out if it is running at the RPM it should.. if it is running rich with choke "off" (Wide open, run position) then *THAT* alone will be enough to cut down your engine RPM and performance.. meaning you likely need carb work. (But also might do to check your flywheel key which can throw off timing and make engine *act* rich.. not to mention, make sure you have the *CORRECT* spark plug with proper gap installed.)


bsengine,

I hear you about the tach, but this an unlikely adventure for this user. :| I am going for broke and I would like to up the rpm if possible. How do I do the following and kick the throttle up?

Snowthrower (horizontal crankshaft) carbs typically have the air vane mounted remotely and engine speed is adjusted by bending a tab to which the governor spring attaches

I have the picture from the URL that was posted by jwales, but the part were I would bend the tab is not clear. I take back what I previously said, the engine is running rich with the choke on and I, of course, disengage the choke after the engine starts up.
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Re: Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

Postby NO0C » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:38 pm

The Toro site lists the speed setting of your engine at 4000 +/- 250 rpm.

You bend the tang circled in yellow in this picture: http://outdoorpowerinfo.com/repairs/ima ... vernor.JPG

Good luck.
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Re: Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

Postby stephanpitts » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:07 pm

Thanks, that picture does the trick. I will have to try to bend something this weekend. Here comes the rookie question, I am assuming if I bend it away from the spring, I would up the RPMS?
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Re: Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

Postby NO0C » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:59 pm

Yes sir !
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Re: Toro CCR 3650 GTS Snow Blower

Postby stephanpitts » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:30 pm

Bent the tang and it seems a little better. I bent it in the middle and leaned it away from the spring. The spring did not seem tight to me even after I bent the tang. Thanks for the advice.
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