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Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

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Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby Stevemalueg » Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:56 am

I have a cub cadet that is about 12 years old with a Honda 20 hp engine. It was getting fuel into the oil and also running pretty rough. I purchased a new carb and put it in. Runs great however I have a stream, not a trickle a full blown stream of gas coming out of the relief hole on the top of the new carb. I put the old one back on and I see that one is too. Tried making sure the float wasn't stuck on both. The needle doesn't seem to move but a fraction of distance.

It really seems like the pressure of the fuel going in is to high. It does have a fuel pump rather than gravity feed. Do these go bad or could there be something else pulling that much fuel.
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby bobodu » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:18 am

Did you MAKE SURE the vacuum and fuel lines were on right ??? Very common mistake. Yes they can get a hole in the diaphragm.Or there is a bit of rubber from putting on the fuel lines jamming the needle.Does it look like this?
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby Stevemalueg » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:51 am

No nothing that looks like that.
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby KE4AVB » Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:10 am

Please post your engine numbers along with the Cub Cadet model number.
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby bobodu » Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:38 am

Yep...need the numbers because every search I come up with shows that pump.
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby Deere2me » Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:36 pm

Replace the fuel pump. It's out to lunch! That was easy, huh!
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby Stevemalueg » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:23 pm

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Cub Cadet Model 640
Model 37AS640C100
Serial # 2K042B00012
Engine, Honda Model GX20K1

It seems to be the carb. If I remove the bowl and blow air in the fuel intake there is air coming through. As I lift the float and the needle moves up the airflow stops. Which is what I would expect and expect with fuel. However once, I put the owl on and screw it down tight, when air is blown in the fuel intake, it come right out the fuel overflow just like the fuel is. This doesn't matter if the carb is right side up or upside down. So something is causing the float to get stuck up. What should I be looking for in regards to making it not bind up?

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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby StarTech » Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:54 pm

Should be a GX620 K1 engine. I think you missed the 6.

Sound like the float is being jammed when install the float bowl try install the bowl with the carburetor upside down. I have seen a few carbs that this can happen to as the floats hangs down too much when installing the bowl.
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby bobodu » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:31 pm

A float stuck UP wouldn't allow fuel in.....and if the bowl is empty then the float can't shut off the fuel because a float won't float in air. Looks like an electric inline pump.
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Re: Honda 20hp getting to much fuel

Postby StarTech » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:41 pm

bobodu wrote:A float stuck UP wouldn't allow fuel in.....and if the bowl is empty then the float can't shut off the fuel because a float won't float in air. Looks like an electric inline pump.


I was thinking along the line of the float being jammed in the down position when the bowl is installed.

It depends if the electric fuel pump has a build-in pressure regulator if it is the source of the problem. If it does then of course it could have failed. A good simple test would be to temporary setup a gravity feed fuel system to bypass the pump setup.
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