Blade won't stay on Honda Mower

[KE4AVB]

Sounds like someone hasn't dealt with many 2Cs. I get Poulans with those so-called chokeless carburetors here that require up to six pulls just to them to hit when you first try to start them even with a brand new carburetor. What I mean by first start is after they have sitting a few weeks.

[Deere2me]

Does it need to be??

No, but the O.P. is specifying OEM parts, and my comment is to point out for the benefit of anyone else reading this thread that the OEM part may be pricier, but the part you price quoted is *not* an OEM part.

Why pay an arm and a leg for a green plastic bag? If properly installed, an aftermarket one should work perfectly.

*IF* properly installed, so will an OEM part. - with Aftermarket, there are a lot more "IF"'s involved - *IF* you get one that meets the quality standards it should.. *IF* it wasn't a poorly made one in a chinese factory on sub-standard machining equipment.. *IF* it is not one of those (relatively common) ones that slip through quality control checks (just throw em all in a box as they come off assembly line, no inspections for quality.) *IF* the dimensions are correct - on some machines, "Close enough" just ain't.

I would bet money that you have installed many non-oem parts ,no??

Oh sure, we often do - most often where we don't have a readily available source for OEM parts, or where we are not concerned with quality - In the same way you *claim* nothing leaves your shop without a 1-pull start (I have my doubts, there's some stuff that just *doesnt* have a 1-pull start, period.) - it is all about quality - and the warranty behind it. if we use OEM parts from our OEM supplier, we are backed by parts and labor warranty if the part fails... if we use aftermarket, and something goes wrong, *WE* have to eat the parts and labor... So, yes we will install aftermarket, but only where we absolutely have to.

And HOW did you determine that? Are you, perhaps clairvoyant? Was there any part numbers that perhaps gave it away??? It's been awhile since the purchase, so I don't remember, nor do I care! The part fit as intended and worked like a charm! 'course it WAS properly installed! ( makes a BIG difference,no?)

The key word being PROPERLY, would you not agree? Apparently, some people just ain't got a grip on the PROPER installation of something as simple as a blade and adapter package, amazin',no? And an OEM one at that!

Hey, I'm just tryin' to save the guy some money, is all! Apparently he needs all the help he can get!

No "claim" about it, any single cylinder mower that I work on, leaves my shop starting ON THE FIRST PULL, or it don't leave my shop, period!
Big difference between the word IT and NOTHING, wouldn't you say?? " Cause I know I dam sure didn't say "nothing". The post your referring to was pertaining to a Briggs mower, was it not? As was my reply!
Not everything is goin' to start on the first pull, but my consumer mowers do!! Do you let 'em leave YOUR shop needin' more than ONE pull?? I didn't think so...

Quite obviously, ya ain't gonna get a two stroke to fire on the first pull, what kinda moron would think such a thing?

Wait for it....

[bgsengine]

And HOW did you determine that? Are you, perhaps clairvoyant? Was there any part numbers that perhaps gave it away???

Simple - knowing dealer cost, there's no way it is OEM and sold at profit - if it was OEM, it'd be either a used, NOS, stolen, or some sort of closeout lot. no clairvoyance needed...

Simple fact is, unless it is aftermarket, that isn't gonna be a reliable source to find what you need every time at the price you quoted.. If you don't remember the price, *DONT* quote it... Or, qualify it with something like "I think it was 8 bucks or so , but that was a few years back"

Last thing many of us pro shops need is some customer coming in and accusing the shop of ripping them off because they saw where you claim an *implied* OEM part can be had new for so much less. How'd you like it if your customer came in to your shop and accused you of being a rip-off because they could buy the same part you sold them, for 15 bucks less somewhere else.?

I could care less if you'd simply recommended they check eBay for better pricing on the part they needed. the only thing that set me off is that you quoted a hard price, and since the O.P specified they had OEM parts, the implication is there that an OEM adapter is gonna be that cheap. It ain't...

Hey, I'm just tryin' to save the guy some money, is all! Apparently he needs all the help he can get!

Really? are YOU clairvoyant? how do you know whether or not they did (or not) install their adapter properly?
That's why some others are instead, asking *questions*. Perhaps they DID install it correctly, but there might have been something interfering with the fit and finish of the job, would have been easy enough to *think* you had it tight, but it wasn't.. maybe the blade bolt bottomed out on something.. wouldn't be the first time it happened even to a pro. Thus, the tendency to ask questions rather than immediately pass judgment, and tell them to buy some cheapo part on ebay (or anywhere else for that matter - just because its on ebay doesn't mean it's the best price!).. some of us are actually trying to help the guy resolve the issue before suggesting to try and buy parts cheaper - if the problem isn't resolved, he could buy a dozen cheapo adapters without fixing it.. I think the goal here should be to try and make sure this is the last one they need to buy.

[KE4AVB]

MTD Article on blade adapter failures. Over 10 yrs old but should still apply>

http://support.mtdproducts.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/488/~/blade-adapter-failure---walk-behind-mower

[Mek-a-nik]

Thanks, KE. Good stuff. And, incidentally, the article was just updated the 5th of this month.

[sblg43]

Got the new OEM blade adapter today. This time, I made sure that it was on tight! Mower works great - too bad I ruined the first adapter. Client doesn't care. He is very happy to have his mower back and the fact that I let him use my personal mower while his was in the shop makes him a very satisfied customer.

[rafa04]

maybe there is something loose in there?

[Deere2me]

Got the new OEM blade adapter today. This time, I made sure that it was on tight! Mower works great - too bad I ruined the first adapter. Client doesn't care. He is very happy to have his mower back and the fact that I let him use my personal mower while his was in the shop makes him a very satisfied customer.

Thank you.