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Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby wristpin » Sat May 31, 2014 3:02 pm

Bought a rather sad mower as a project. It has the original engine, 110988 1275 831115.
Have dealt with all the major engine issues, non existent valve clearances, stripped threads, loose inlet manifold cross over tube and leaking fuel tank etc but then realised that the air filter canister is not the correct one for the engine.
According to the IPL it should be a shallow one drawing air from holes in the bottom of the canister but the one fitted is one of the deeper ones with a plastic grid in the bottom drawing air from a slot in the front. In fact the grid should stick out a little way through the slot. Only problem is that the grid is missing.
Before going on a hunt for a different canister or a grid I've had a look through the IPLs to see if the grid was ever available alone and whether it's still available but I can't find an IPL showing that pattern of air filter. So can any BS expert point me to a model and type IPL that shows the deep filter box with the grid?
The whole mower only cost me £10/ $15 and so far has only cost me head and valve chest gaskets and a bit of hardware but it would be nice to sort the air cleaner.
On a slightly different tack, Briggs here in the UK do not sell the American Red paint any more. Does anyone know a paint code for that colour?
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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby bgsengine » Sat May 31, 2014 4:47 pm

wristpin wrote:Bought a rather sad mower as a project. It has the original engine, 110988 1275 831115.
Have dealt with all the major engine issues, non existent valve clearances, stripped threads, loose inlet manifold cross over tube and leaking fuel tank etc but then realised that the air filter canister is not the correct one for the engine.
According to the IPL it should be a shallow one drawing air from holes in the bottom of the canister but the one fitted is one of the deeper ones with a plastic grid in the bottom drawing air from a slot in the front. In fact the grid should stick out a little way through the slot. Only problem is that the grid is missing.
Before going on a hunt for a different canister or a grid I've had a look through the IPLs to see if the grid was ever available alone and whether it's still available but I can't find an IPL showing that pattern of air filter. So can any BS expert point me to a model and type IPL that shows the deep filter box with the grid?
The whole mower only cost me £10/ $15 and so far has only cost me head and valve chest gaskets and a bit of hardware but it would be nice to sort the air cleaner.
On a slightly different tack, Briggs here in the UK do not sell the American Red paint any more. Does anyone know a paint code for that colour?


IPL shows 3 air filter styles that may have been used

There's 2 round ones - One's paper with a foam pre-filter , the other is a round plastic grid with foam wrapper and the third is a flat oiled foam filter

Which one do you have?
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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby wristpin » Sat May 31, 2014 6:09 pm

Mine is the flat oiled one but not the correct flat oiled one!!
The correct one for the model and code is what I call the shallow one that draws the air through large round cut outs in the base of the canister and has a plastic or steel spacer to stop the retaining screw crushing it as shown on the 110988-1275 IPL.
However, someone has fitted the deeper type which should have a plastic grid embodying an air intake through a slot in the front of the canister. What I'm trying to find is an IPL for the engine that this deeper filter was used on. Then I will be able to see if that grid was available as a separate part or only with the complete canister.
I've still got my old hard copy BS parts books from that era so tomorrow I am going to dig them out and have a flick though - I lot easier than trying to search computerised ones without the model and code details!
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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby bgsengine » Sat May 31, 2014 7:48 pm

wristpin wrote:Mine is the flat oiled one but not the correct flat oiled one!!
The correct one for the model and code is what I call the shallow one that draws the air through large round cut outs in the base of the canister and has a plastic or steel spacer to stop the retaining screw crushing it as shown on the 110988-1275 IPL.
However, someone has fitted the deeper type which should have a plastic grid embodying an air intake through a slot in the front of the canister. What I'm trying to find is an IPL for the engine that this deeper filter was used on. Then I will be able to see if that grid was available as a separate part or only with the complete canister.
I've still got my old hard copy BS parts books from that era so tomorrow I am going to dig them out and have a flick though - I lot easier than trying to search computerised ones without the model and code details!


Sounds to me like someone installed an update kit - does it look like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-5 ... B001NJ0BKQ ?
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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby KE4AVB » Sat May 31, 2014 9:13 pm

Wristpin,

Can you post a picture or two of what you got now? It might in coming with what it is.
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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby wristpin » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:04 am

KE4AVB wrote:Wristpin,

Can you post a picture or two of what you got now? It might in coming with what it is.


Yes, I will once I've got to grips with photobucket again - I hate it!!
Is there no way one can post images on this site straight from own image file on PC or tablet?

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Cracked the problem over breakfast coffee!
Reverted to good old paper IPL that hasn't seen the light of day for years.
The air cleaner is from a 94500-945999, type 0117 or 0150-0154
AF assy 394214 and the grid that I want is called a Support, 280268

Thanks for the help and suggestions along the way.
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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby KE4AVB » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:37 am

Glad found the info. I am going to see I can look up an image to see it is anything I had in mind.

As for photos all I do is log into my photobucket account, click on upload. It changes over to the upload screen for drag and drop or click on choose photos and videos to open a file browser, Click on file image you wanting to upload and click on open. At that how it works here on my Windows desktop systems. Of course I got upload them to my computer from my phone via bluetooth connection.

Once uploaded to the bucket just double click on the image you want and on the right side of the screen click on the direct link or copy it. Now when posting here use the [img]your%20link[/img] for it to be displayed. Remember we have a 600 x 600 image size here so may need to use the bucket's resize feature.

Here an image of Walker the Emu I just uploaded while I was writing this resized to fit our max image.
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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby KE4AVB » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:57 am

At least now we know what we were looking for although Briggs is listing as a NLA part.
One NOS listed on Ebay that you might interested in. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Briggs-Stratton-Parts-394214-CLEANER-AIR-Briggs-Stratton-Engine-BS-394214-/141017010517?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d544d155

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Re: Briggs air cleaner identification

Postby wristpin » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:58 pm

Yes, that's the one. Pity it's not on ebay over here as the $29 shipping rather kills the deal!
The support grid that I need is not shown as obs over here but I suspect that it may be. However it shouldn't be too much of a problem to pick up a complete used assy, either this one or the original.
The good news is that it runs sweetly with no sign of smoke and the Powertrac clutch performes as it should. When Hayter introduced it on the Harrier there were immediate problems and various fixes were tried including fitting a torque limiting slip clutch into the auxiliary pto shaft to soften the drive take up. In the end they abandoned it and reverted to an external dog clutch. Lots of the Powertrac machines were retro fitted with the dog clutch under Warranty. It's amazing that this one survived unconverted and working well.
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