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Re: General B&S Question

Postby pawandmaw » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:57 pm

[quote][/If you're talkin about the L head series, there's a couple of things to check/try. Is the intake tube tight on the cylinder, check it for cracks also. I always smear a dab of grease on the carb/tube O ring. Also I usually put a drop or two of motor oil on the throttle shaft seal, does two things: helps to dampen the movement and also seals the shaft somewhat. Also I usually will pop the emulsion tube out of the carb when I clean em. It's pressed in and " not removeable" but you can stick a large flat blade screwdriver in the venturi and pry down, it will pop free. I usually use half of a spring type clothespin or popsickle stick to protect the nozzle.
Also, I have heard that if the teeny tiny hole in the center of the bowl nut is opened up just a scosh it seems to help the overall performance. Have no idea how it works.........
Could also be a sticky valve.quote]
I had the same problem on a Rally mower 14.5 ohv briggs.
A sticky valve , I added seafoam to the gas to elimate the sticky valve problem.
Model 287707 type 021601 code 9411284a
The mower would run great at slow speed, but when I ran it on high it would surge about 15 feet .
I cleaned this carb in an ultrasonic cleaner after pulling the jet screws out and it still did not help. I also put new seat and needle in it.

My question is the a real good on site for buying carbs walbro and nikki at the lowest price.
wabro 799727 needed
Any good site for used carbs????

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Re: General B&S Question

Postby bgsengine » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:48 pm

pawandmaw wrote:My question is the a real good on site for buying carbs walbro and nikki at the lowest price.

eBay, Amazon
wabro 799727 needed
Any good site for used carbs????
eBay - amazon doesnt like sellers that sell used stuff
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Lowest Price = Not always the best buy.. keep that in mind - you DO get what you pay for.
Ive seen carbs listed on Amazon supposed to be brand new genuine OEM, and the price was BELOW dealer cost... but then it could be a fake copy, it could be a "new old stock" it could be reconditioned, warranty rejects, etc. You won't find many dealers willing to sell a new, guaranteed carburetor for a few cents over what it costs them... and those that do, won't be in business very long.
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Re: General B&S Question

Postby Deere2me » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:10 pm

pawandmaw wrote:My question is the a real good on site for buying carbs walbro and nikki at the lowest price.
wabro 799727 needed
Any good site for used carbs????

thanks
Paw

I use E-bay a lot, as well as Amazon. Hey, you can get a good deal from either site, especially when you figure in FREE shipping and no sales tax! You just have use ( dare I say it) common sense, is all. PAY ATTENTION to the description, not just the photo!!! It's the description that counts!
I have only had one problem with an E-bay vendor, place called Mowandsnow out of Chicagoland. He sells a lot of like new take-off parts. The muffler he sent me ( including the shoulder bolts) was in excellent like new condition, just the wrong one from the description.Got my money back, AND kept the muffler! Would even use him again I reckon.
Aftermarket parts can be just as good as the oem in many applications. WE ALL HAVE USED BOOTLEG AFTERMARKET PARTS, SOME EVEN SELL EM'! I have no problem using aftermarket, BUT, as I said ya gotta pay attention to the details!!
As an afterthought, its been my experience that a lot of the bootleg carb kits ain't worth the money. In fact, if you shop around you can usually get an oem kit almost as cheap. Or just get the few individual oem parts needed , is what I and others do.
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Re: General B&S Question

Postby plpitts1 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:54 am

does anybody know the RPM settings for this machine?
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Re: General B&S Question

Postby bgsengine » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:24 am

plpitts1 wrote:does anybody know the RPM settings for this machine?
Toro Recycler Model 20333, Engine #128M02 0001-f1 12101758, Manufacured Oct. 2012.


Briggs Parts Lookup wrote:Top No-Load Speed: 2900
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Re: General B&S Question

Postby plpitts1 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:41 pm

once again thanks for your replies this has been a big helphelp
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Re: General B&S Question

Postby Deere2me » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:10 pm

plpitts1 wrote:does anybody know the RPM settings for this machine?


To satisfy the M.I.B. you wanna set the RPM at 3,298 rpm. The engine is designed to and will run all day at 3600 or so ( try keeping up with that with your personal pace! )
Take a look see at service bulletin 107. http://www.mymowerparts.com/pdf/Tecumseh-Service-Bulletins/
I usually set the speed a tad higher than the chart.
http://ppeten.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=836

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Re: General B&S Question

Postby bgsengine » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:41 pm

Deere2me wrote:
plpitts1 wrote:does anybody know the RPM settings for this machine?


To satisfy the M.I.B. you wanna set the RPM at 3,298 rpm. The engine is designed to and will run all day at 3600 or so ( try keeping up with that with your personal pace! )
Take a look see at service bulletin 107. http://www.mymowerparts.com/pdf/Tecumseh-Service-Bulletins/
I usually set the speed a tad higher than the chart.


Uhh.. but it's a Briggs we're dealing with..? and he did ask the RPM spec on that particular model...
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Re: General B&S Question

Postby Deere2me » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:21 am

bgsengine wrote:
Uhh.. but it's a Briggs we're dealing with..? and he did ask the RPM spec on that particular model...


Uhh...don't much matter if it's a Briggs we're dealin' with...why would it?? Don't matter if it's a Honda, Subaru/Robin, Tecumseh, small block Chebby, or bootleg clone! It's a 22' consumer mower, and that's all that really matters as far as the M.I.B. are concerned! For the best quality of cut you want the max RPM you can get, but of course, some have to deal with the constraints the M.I.B. hobbles us with.
I really don't know where you came up with the top no-load of 2900 rpm? Briggs usually defers rpm figures to the MFG. and Toro aint sayin'. So I stand by my figure of 3295 RPM tops.
I feel confident the OPs engine will run all day long at 3295, with no problem.
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Re: General B&S Question

Postby StarTech » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:37 am

It is most likely quoted from the Briggs Power Portal Engine Specs page.

Here is an excerpt from that page (does not contain all the specs).

Specifications

Engine Fuel Gasoline
Configuration Vertical
Cylinders One
SKU 128M02-0001-F1
Top No Load Speed SET ENG NO-LOAD SPEED TO 2900 +/-100 RPM
Oil Capacity 20 fl. oz.
Air Cleaner AIR CLEANER, PAPER ELEMENT
Air Cleaner Cover AIR CLNR COV COL 290 - SATIN BLACK
Bearings BEARINGS, PLAIN PTO
Blower Housing COVER, XVX, 466 BURGUNDY RED INST'D W/290 SATIN BL
Bore Type Koolbore
Bore Size 2.69
Stroke 2.04
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